Why I Dont Sell Miles And Points

Why I Don’t Sell Miles and Points

16 responses

  1. Paul
    August 28, 2014

    I have sold miles. I will not state the buyer’s name here, out of respect, and overall it was a better than not situation. My initial miles and points accumulation was all about the conversion to cash. This made me very tempted to sell my AA miles when I found an interested buyer. AA points are a bit trickier for me to use, due to my personal situation, so when I got the chance to sell them I took it. Almost exactly a year later I was contacted by AA in regards to the situation. They sent me a very stern email letting me know that they felt I violated the T&C and yadda yadda. They were absolutely correct, and they had also stated that I needed to prove myself innocent if I were in fact. I sent them a brief email in which I did not reveal any information about the buyer and took the blame all onto myself. The final result, they removed some points (not all points) from my account. End of story. It was still worth it to me, as AA points are not as valuable as others, and if I had to do it over again I would have still gone through with the sale. I would not do this with the airlines I do use, but outside of that you have to decide on what the best value for you is. I have also sold other kinds of points and the value was good enough that I would do it again. Each individual has to weigh the pros and cons and decide why they collect points. As of today, I have less interest in selling points as I see more value in the experience and vacation/traveling opportunities that those points offer. I have also narrowed my focus to going after the points that make the most sense. Selling makes sense for certain points/situations, but as I see it becoming more difficult and risky I see my own focus moving in a safer and more worthwhile direction.

  2. Sell Miles
    August 28, 2014

    I disagree completely with this article. The only one that can get in trouble is the one buying the miles. They are going after the big fish. They don’t care about someone who just sells 50K points from a signup bonus. They care about the buyer whose buying 1 million points per day.

  3. Points law
    August 28, 2014

    So I see the “utah is the exception” all over the Internet and can’t find one reference except to another random post. I’m dubious but I might be wrong….can anyone provide a reference to utah statutes or a case or something solid? It seems like it’s just something someone said and now everyone perpetuates it without ever dong any checking. Let me know if I’m wrong. 🙂

  4. Slow Roller
    August 28, 2014

    I don’t sell miles because I make bank off credit card referrals.

  5. jane
    August 28, 2014

    If I purchase the Awards ticket (AA) paying taxes and fees with my credit card, use my friend’s name on the ticket and then have her pay an amount for the ticket, is this also a no-no or will this be okay? She , by the way, has an AA mileage awards account but does not have enough miles to travel. Another question- will AA only call the seller about this or will AA call the buyer to ask?

  6. Chris
    August 29, 2014

    @Jane: you’ll be fine, you’re allowed to book award tickets for others, they’re just not “allowed” to give you money for it. Your friend just needs to state it was a gift if asked by the airline.

  7. traderprofit
    August 29, 2014

    @sellmiles: I was a mileage broker from 1991 to 1998 and there’s a reason I stopped.
    Back “in the day” Southwest didn’t care if you sold their Rapid Rewards. They do now.
    Other airlines always cared, and I can point you to plenty of lawsuits against brokers and plenty of closed mileage accounts, the latter mainly occurring as a result of one of the largest brokers being involved in a massive Ponzi scheme (see Raejean Bonham wiki).
    There were plenty of other accounts closed when an airline’s security department asked the traveler who gave them their tickets and they did not know.
    Bad brokers who would not explain the deal to the customer, and frequent flyers who repeatedly sold miles to brokers that were used for travel all over the country , where the ff was not also traveling resulted in closed accounts.
    I’ll admit it was a small percentage that got caught, but frankly I could always cancel my credit card charge if I was the passenger…..you can’t get your ff account back

  8. Vic
    September 5, 2014

    I’ve never sold miles or points but years ago I did attempt to sell a discount voucher that was a premium with the NWA World Perks Visa. After listing it on e Bay my current reservations and account were frozen. I got a threatening cease and desist email, so I backed off pretty quickly. Agree with Darius– it just isn’t worth it. Enjoy what you’ve earned within the rules and if you bit off more than you can chew, take the opportunity to do something nice for someone.

  9. Jace
    October 13, 2014

    Totally disagree with this article. If you do things right, it should not be a problem at all! Selling miles is not illegal in any way!

  10. lj
    March 4, 2015

    I have AA miles that I want to sell because AA has changed their rewards travel so that it is nearly impossible to get a decent flight. I have tried to book internationally and domestically and it always requires ridiculous overnight layovers,leaving and returning from different airports,date changes, etc. So I canceled my AA rewards card and will not fly American anyway, so it wont bother me if they close my FF account. I have found that it is harder to find a buyer for AA miles.

  11. chris
    March 6, 2016

    I think it also depends on the situation.

    Situation 1. You signup for a CC for the mile bonus and don’t plan on using the CC to accumulate more miles, not much can go wrong in that situation. Worst case they freeze the card and your at no loss.

    Situation 2, You have a platinum Airline card and travel a lot and love those additional perks like upgrades and lounge access your risk is much higher.

    I think your better off seeing if a family or friend is flying somewhere and offer to book it for them via points and they pay you cash for the ticket (throw in a discount to them), win win. Most people know someone who is flying often and its an easy win-win for both people.

  12. Bob F
    March 23, 2016

    Total BS. Sold miles for years, made thousands of dollars, and never had a problem.

  13. Bryan
    June 6, 2016

    I have sold miles before, but some of the companies who do this I have had horrible experiences with. One of them is MilesMoola.com. I submitted for a quote, and honestly they provided the best price for my Southwest miles. After confirming that I would accept the quote and providing my secure airline account info, I never heard from them. I called them the next day, and the gentlemen on the phone was very rude and basically said he would get back to me tomorrow. Several days went by and still no word (all they while they are sitting on my account info), and after following up with an email asking if they are going to proceed, I get a reply within 10 minutes saying “no thanks. Please send elsewhere”. Amazing. They could have at least used proper grammar.

    In any case, DO NOT USE MilesMoola.com.

  14. Steve C
    June 8, 2016

    what about Amex points? I have about 20M and looking to at least turn some into cash.

  15. Gina
    August 22, 2016

    I have 2200 AA miles which I will never use because I seldom travel and apparrently there are not enough miles for me to purchase a gift card you need over 6000 to purchase a $25 gift card.
    ultimately I would have liked to use them to replace the RCA Viking Pro Tablet my husband got me for my 50th birthday that was broken when security decided they needed to phyiscally search my suitcase they also broke a 50th birthday coffee mug that my parents got me for my 50th birthday. Cannot find that mug online anywhere. AA sent me a $15 check for that. For the Tablet they sent me a $100 travel voucher.

  16. Brad L
    September 8, 2016

    Yeah, this does not ring true for me. I sold my AA miles, which would have expired, but weren’t enough for me to travel anywhere I wanted to go. Essentially, AA forced me to do this. Made good money, was afraid broker would stiff me, but they didn’t. If AA eventually comes after me, I don’t care. I sold all my points, rarely fly them.

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