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Persistence Pays Off: Business Class Award Flights for a Family of 4 (Worth Over $18,000!) From Asia to the US!

Persistence Pays Off:  Business Class Award Flights for a Family of 4 (Worth Over $18,000!) From Asia to the US!

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Jasmin:   One of the challenges of traveling as a family is finding and booking award flights for a larger group.  Having 3 kids means I need quadruple the number of miles or points compared to flying solo!  And finding available award seats for 4 people can be tricky.

Thus far, I’ve only booked coach flights when I’ve traveled with the kids.  Business Class seems wasteful, especially on shorter domestic flights.  But I just booked an international itinerary that will knock the kids’ socks off!

I’d been searching for award flights from Asia to the US using American Airlines miles for months.  So when I finally found 4 Business Class award seats all the way from Manila, Philippines, to New York (JFK), I pulled the trigger.  These flights would cost over $18,000 if we paid cash!

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
I Can’t Wait to See the Looks on the Kids’ Faces When We Take Our Seats in Cathay Pacific’s Amazing Business Class

I’ll share the award flights we booked and the process for finding available seats.  And remind you of how you can do it, too!

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Link:   American Airlines Award Chart

Link:   American Airlines Partner Award Chart

For years, I’ve dreamed of taking the kids to the Philippines, which is where my mom’s side of the family is from.  This year, we’re finally doing it – in style!

I’d already gotten a great deal on Etihad coach flights from New York (JFK) to Manila via Abu Dhabi.  But I had held off on firming up return flight plans because I really wanted to treat the kids to Business Class flights coming home.  They’ve never flown Business Class, and on a long journey like this I figured we’d make the most of it.

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
So Far, the Only Lie-Flat Seats the Kids Have Experienced Have Been the “Do-It-Yourself” Kind 🙂

I had a substantial chunk of American Airlines miles I’d been squirreling away for several years with the idea that I’d blow them on an epic trip.  I earned them from credit card sign-up bonuses and spending on:

American Airlines has made it harder and harder to find low-level award seats on their own planes.  But because they’re part of the oneworld alliance, you can use American Airlines miles to book partner award flights on airlines like Cathay Pacific, Japan Airlines, and Qatar.

American Airlines charges 70,000 American Airlines miles one-way in Business Class between the US and Asia (Region 2), plus taxes and fees.  And I had more than enough miles.

But I also knew finding 4 Business Class award seats on a multi-segment itinerary from Asia would be difficult.  It took a while, but persistence pays off!

1.   Finding Award Seats Was Frustrating at First

As a general rule, most airlines release award seats right when they open their schedule (typically ~11 to 12 months in advance) or within a week or 2 of departure.  I started planning this trip ~6 months out, and discovered early on that finding Business Class award seats on our travel dates was next to impossible for 1 person – let alone four!

To get from Manila to New York, there aren’t any non-stop oneworld alliance flights.  So we had to make at least one connection.  The oneworld options between the US and Asia include:

  • American Airlines
  • British Airways
  • Cathay Pacific
  • Japan Airlines
  • Qatar

British Airways was out of the question, because their fuel surcharges are horrible.  And while I like American Airlines, I really wanted the kids to experience Business Class on an international airline they weren’t likely to fly again any time soon.  Cathay Pacific was on the top of the list.

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
Emily and Alfy Enjoyed Cathay Pacific Business Class on Their Trip to Japan, and I Wanted the Kids to Have the Same Experience

And what makes searching for award seats trickier is that American Airlines won’t show certain partners (including Cathay Pacific) when you search using their website.  Instead, I searched using the British Airways website, which is a little cumbersome.

My strategy was to search for the over-water segment first.  I knew Cathay Pacific flew from Hong Kong to several US destinations, like New York, Chicago, and Boston.  So I focused my attention on those award flights, checking almost every day for months.  I’d also peek occasionally at flights to New York via Doha on Qatar, or through Japan on Japan Airlines.  No luck all around.  Ugh.

2.   Think Outside the Box, Be Flexible, and Don’t Give Up!

Admittedly, I was starting to get frustrated.  But ~6 weeks prior to our travel dates, I started to see Business Class award seats pop up here and there.  Not 4 at once, but 1 or 2 at a time.

I also began expanding my search to include routes and airlines I hadn’t checked often, and dates before and after our original planned return.  For example, Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines fly to Vancouver non-stop from Asia, so I included those routes in my search.  And considered flights to the US from airports other than Tokyo or Hong Kong, like Osaka.

I won’t lie, searching segment-by-segment and fiddling around with all the combinations of routes, airlines, and dates was time consuming.  But a few days ago award seats magically appeared – at least 4 Business Class seats home – on the exact date I wanted!  I blinked a few times to make sure I was seeing it correctly, but there it was:

  • Japan Airlines Business Class Manila to Tokyo (~23 hour overnight layover)
  • Japan Airlines Business Class Tokyo to Vancouver (~12 hour daytime layover)
  • Cathay Pacific Business Class Vancouver to New York (JFK)
Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
The Planets Aligned and Business Class Award Seats Appeared From Manila to Tokyo, Tokyo to Vancouver, and Vancouver to New York

This routing hadn’t been on my radar until fairly recently.  I’d forgotten that Cathay Pacific flies a 5th Freedom route between New York and Vancouver.

I also hadn’t considered an overnight along the way.  But once I found the seats, I realized an overnight in Tokyo would be a tremendous opportunity for our family.  And a day in Vancouver meant we could see my dad, who lives a short ferry ride away in Victoria.  🙂

3.   What It Costs, and What We’re Getting

Each Business Class ticket cost 70,000 American Airlines miles plus ~$51 in taxes and fees.  The total price was 280,000 American Airlines miles and ~$205 for the 4 of us.

Because I currently have the Barclaycard AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red World Elite Mastercard®, I also got a rebate of 10,000 American Airlines miles.  With the card, you get 10% of your redeemed miles back, up to a maximum of 10,000 miles per year.

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
If You Have Certain American Airlines Credit Cards, You’ll Get Some of Your Miles Back When You Book an Award

I searched the identical itinerary using ITA Matrix to see the price of a paid ticket.  And found our flights would have cost over $18,000!

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
I’d Never Spend This Kind of Money on Flights – but Thanks to Miles and Points, We’ll Get to Fly Business Class for a Fraction of the Cost

In this case, we’re getting a value of ~6.6 cents per American Airlines mile (~$18,080 cash price – $205 taxes and fees / 270,000 miles).  Sounds pretty good to me!

Both Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines are known for their incredible service, comfortable Business Class seats, and excellent meals.  The kids are especially looking forward to “seats that turn into a bed” and the inflight entertainment system.  Me, I’m all about the food and airport lounges! 🙂

Persistence Pays Off Business Class Award Flights For A Family Of 4 Worth Over 18000 From Asia To The US
Japan Airlines Offers Traditional Japanese Meals or Western Options – and They All Look Amazing

Emily had a terrific experience flying Japan Airlines Business Class from Osaka to the US.  You can check out her review of Cathay Pacific Business Class, which also looks incredible!  So we’re really looking forward to our flights.

I also just booked us a night in one of Tokyo’s top luxury hotels for fewer points than you might expect … but more on that in another post!

Bottom Line

Finding Business Class award seats for a family of 4 between Asia and the US took a lot of patience and effort.  But it eventually paid off!  Because I was able to book myself and the kids in Japan Airlines and Cathay Pacific Business Class between Manila, Philippines, and New York (JFK).

We’ll spend a night in Tokyo and a day in Vancouver en route.  The total cost was 270,000 American Airlines miles (after a 10,000-mile rebate from having the Barclaycard AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red World Elite Mastercard®) and ~$205 in taxes and fees.  Had we paid cash, the tickets would have cost over $18,000!

The kids and I are super excited because it’ll be their first Business Class experience.  If you’ve flown these routes, or have recommendations for spending ~23 hours in Tokyo with kids, I’d love to hear your comments!

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Hi Jasmin,

I came across your article while researching for the opposite route (US to Japan–specifically JFK/EWR to Japan). I’m looking to book 3 J’s and initially thought ANA was the way to go, but have read ANA typically only opens up 2 J’s so 3 would be impossible. What other airline would have better awards space availability for J’s for a RT flight from US to Japan? Thanks!

Hi Tigris23, I don’t have personal experience booking ANA awards so don’t have any insight for you there. However, I did notice that when I was searching for Japan Airlines awards, there were more available award seats on routes to North America which had the “Shell Flat Neo” seats on the Boeing 787 (these seats don’t quite go flat, but we enjoyed them just fine).

Another option if you have United Airlines miles is to try for United Airlines flights between Japan and North America. If Business Class award seats aren’t available right away, you can wait list for Business Class in case it becomes open. Team member Keith had great success booking 6 Business Class seats between the US and Australia using this method:

https://millionmilesecrets.com/2017/08/30/waitlist-for-united-airlines-business-class-award-seat/

Good luck! Please let us know how you make out!

Indeed, perseverance furthers! I so appreciate your sharing logic & strategy that take a While to learn. If the kids had their own aa acvounts, you’d have been able to recoup 28K points instead of just 10K – a moot point in comparison to your success. I love the photo & term “do-it-yourself” lie flat seats!

Hi Karey – Thanks! Kids do have their own American Airlines accounts but it’ll be a few years before they can qualify for their own credit cards (I’m not sure who’s more excited about that, them or me!) 🙂

Ah, so it is the card that gets the rebates, not the mileage account… good to keep at least one American card open then! Lots of wisdom here…

Yes, it’s the card, and only a couple qualify. More info here:

https://millionmilesecrets.com/2018/02/15/power-up-your-miles-points-with-this-card-perk/

Thanks for this trip. I also need to be in Manila around August/September and trying to figure out how I can use/maximize my 175K plus miles in AA.

Hi BlueMoonCT – Were you able to find flights? Let me know if I can help you out.

Amazing!! Totally awesome and so excited for your family! WELL DONE!!!! And thanks for sharing 🙂

Thanks, Tessa! Much excitement here 🙂

I’ve booked four one ways to Paris in December and am now working on the return. There’s only one non stop to DFW on 12/23 but it’s code shared with the different American Airlines partners. If there isn’t any low level mileage award on American should I look at partners or is the space the same because the flight is code shared?

Hi Jackie – if American Airlines isn’t releasing award seats on their own plane, they aren’t releasing to partners for the same flight (even if it’s a partner codeshare flight number). Have you tried connecting flights on partners Finnair or Iberia?

No, I haven’t tried them yet as I’m not sure I understand the math. If it takes 30K miles from Europe to the US (say CDG to JFK) and then I find a 30K from JFK to DFW am I out of 60K or 30K?

The 30k price includes connections within the US. You can have a maximum of 4 segments on a route with American Airlines miles. So you could do CDG-JFK-DFW no problem, because that’s only 2 segments (CDG-JFK and JFK-DFW).

Search segment by segment to piece it together. So look for flights separately CDG-JFK and then JFK-DFW. Only caveat is you can only layover for maximum 24 hours at a connecting point.

Did that make sense? Please bug me again if not. Good luck!

I should clarify, 4 segments on an *international* route.

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