British Airways Avios are know for their ridiculous fees and taxes and it usually doesn’t make sense to redeem them for coach trips. For example, you will pay $500 in fees for a coach award to Europe from the US on British Airways.
However, there are 3 types of long distance flights for which you will pay NO or LOW fees.
And all but 1 of these routes below cost less than $500 or 1 transatlantic redemption from the US to Euope in coach.
Book British Airways Award Flights Like a Pro:
- Part 1 – Love it or Hate it: An Introduction to British Airways Avios Points
- Part 2 – What Does a Distance Based Award Chart Mean?
- Part 3 – Taxes and Fees
- Part 4 – What Else Can I do with British Airways Avios Points?
- Part 5 – Using British Airways Avios Points to Upgrade Paid Tickets
- Part 6 – Using Cash and Points
- Part 7 – Household Accounts
- Part 8 – The British Airways Companion Pass
- Part 9 – How to Find Award Availability
- Part 10 – The Best International Awards Using British Airways Avios Points
- Part 11 – The Best Domestic Awards Using British Airways Avios Points
- Part 12 – The Best Short Distance Awards Using British Airways Avios Points
All the itineraries in this post are priced in coach to show how you can have lots of travel across 3 to 4 continents in coach for only a few hundred dollars in fees using British Airways Avios. The conventional wisdom is that Avios is not a good choice for long distance coach itineraries, but that is not always true.
Some of you don’t want to travel 30+ hours in coach, and that’s fine. But lots of other folks will think it great to be able to visit Brazil, the UK, and Ireland for 67,500 Avios + ~$175!
That’s only 45,000 American Express Membership Rewards points in coach and 90,000 Membership Rewards Points in Business Class if you take advantage of the 50% transfer bonus to British Airways until May 31, 2012.
Wouldn’t that be a great 2 week (or month!) vacation?
1. Flights from the US to South America.Many folks know that you don’t pay fuel surcharges when using British Airways flights from the US to South America on American Airlines or LAN. For example, it costs only 25,000 Avios and $23.70 to fly from New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio on American Airlines.
Dallas to Rio de Janerio for 25,000 Avios & $23 in coach
But you will have to pay more Avios to get from your airport to the departure city or use a different routing since each extra Avios segment costs more based on the distance flown.
2. Flights from the US to Ireland on Aer LingusWhat is much less know, is that you pay very little fuel surcharges (~$150 roundtrip) for flights on Aer Lingus, a British Airways partner airline, from the US to Dublin and back.
Even better, there are often 9 or more seats available in coach on the Boston and New York JFK flights. It was harder finding award seats on the Chicago and Orlando flights.
One Mile at a Time has a nice post on how to find availability using either the Qantas website (free) or ExpertFlyer (paid service).- Boston to Dublin or Shanon – 12,500 Avios + $30
- New York JFK to Dublin or Shanon – 20,000 Avios + $30
- Chicago to Dublin – 20,000 Avios + $30
- Orlando to Dublin – 25,000 Avios + $30
The fees are a bit higher returning, but still much less than what you’ll pay on a British Airways flight. You can’t book these online so you’ll have to pay a $25 telephone booking fee.
- Dublin or Shannon to Boston – 12,500 Avios + $90
- Dublin or Shanon to New York JFK – 20,000 Avios +$91
- Dublin to Chicago – 20,000 Avios + $90
- Dublin to Orlando – 20,000 Avios + $90
Lucky also reports finding lots of business class seats when using the United website to search for Aer Lingus award availability.
These flights are perhaps one of the best ways to visit Europe using Avios points because of the low fees. 25,000 Avios roundtrip in coach or 50,000 points roundtrip in business + $150 is a steal for travel to Europe!
3. Flights departing from BrazilWhat is even less known is that you don’t pay ANY fuel surcharges when you use Avios for flights leaving Brazil on Iberia or British Airways thanks to Brazilian law.
This means that 1-way or return trips originating from Brazil have virtually no fees.
For example, you can fly from Brazil to London for only 30,000 Avios & $36 in fees.
Compare this to the $242 in fees it costs to fly from Seattle to London.
Brazil to Hong Kong via London for 60,000 Avios & $77 (or $219 with a stopover) Brazil to Nairobi or Mumbai via London for 60,000 Avios & $77 (or $219 with a stopover)British Airways flies to London from the following Brazilian cities and has good availability from both cities.
- Rio de Janerio
- Sao Paulo
Iberia flies to Madrid and Barcelona from the following cities, but doesn’t have such great award availability:
- Rio de Janerio
- Sao Paulo
At first, this seems useful only to folks based in Brazil or for US readers with family in Brazil.
Putting it togetherBut piecing together all 3 types of long-haul flights with no or low fuel surcharges you can use British Airways Avios to have Big Travel with Small Money across multiple continents!
Multiply the coach Avios by:
- 1.5 for travel in Premium Economy
- 2.0 for travel in Business and
- 3.0 for travel in First Class
The taxes and fees will remain about the same in Business or First Class unless you have a stopover in London, in which case add on ~$300 for the premium departure tax from London.
Note that you will have to get to the origin city on your own or by spending Avios and for some of the longer itineraries, you will have to either buy a 1-way cash ticket back or use miles on United or American Airlines for a 1-way award ticket to return to the US.
British Airways Avios doesn’t give you any routing flexibility (i.e. the best value flights are out of only certain cities), and unless you’re willing to pay more points, these itineraries won’t be perfect.
Avios, more than any other mile and points currency, requires flexibility. And the itineries below are creative ways to squeeze value out of your Avios.
You can book the itineraries below as separate 1-way awards and all awards except for Aer Lingus awards can be booked online.
Also note that US Citizens have to pay ~$160 for a 10 year Brazilian visa. You also CANNOT use the Travel Together companion pass after spending $30,000 on the Chase British Airways credit card for these itineraries. That’s because you have to fly only on British Airways planes AND leave and return from the US.
Visiting 2 different continents
1) US to Brazil to London & Dublin to US for 67,500 Avios & ~$175
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24 on American Airlines
- Brazil to London for 30,000 Avios & $36 on British Airways
- Dublin or Shannon to Boston on Aer Lingus for 12,500 Avios & ~$90 +$25 telephone booking fee
- OR Dublin or Shannon back to New York or Chicago for 20,000 Avios & ~$90 & Orlando for 25,000 Avios
By traveling back to the US from Dublin, you save on the London departure tax and you don’t pay high surcharges on British Airways flights. However, you’ll have to buy a cheap ~$150 ticket from London to Dublin or Shannon.
But you’ll visit Brazil and Europe for only 67,500 Avios and $175!
Note that you may have to pay more to get from the departure and arrival cities to your home airport since you pay more for each extra segment when using Avios points.
2) US –> Brazil –> London –> US for 75,000 Avios & ~$422
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to London for 30,000 Avios & $36 on British Airways
- London to New York for 20,000 Avios & $362 on British Airways
Flying back to the US from London on British Airways increases the cost of the trip because of BA surcharges and the departure tax from London. But you’ll get a lot more award availability on British Airways flights and can fly back to over 22 US cities.
This will cost you only 50,000 Membership Rewards points in coach or 100,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class if you take advantage of the 50% transfer bonus to British Airways until May 31, 2012.
To put this in perspective it costs 60,000 United, US Air, or American Airlines miles to fly to Europe. For just 15,000 more Avios (and a few hundred dollars more), you can also visit Brazil!
Note that you may have to pay more to get from the departure and arrival cities to your home airport since you pay more for each extra segment when using Avios points, but this may be less because British Airways flies to so many US cities.
3) US –> Brazil –> Paris & Dublin –> US for 72,000 Avios & ~$179
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Paris (via London) for 34,500 Avios & $65 on British Airways
- Dublin or Shanon to Boston for 12,500 Avios & ~$90
- OR Dublin or Shannon back to New York or Chicago for 20,000 Avios & ~$90 & Orlando for 25,000 Avios
You can use this itinery to visit any city in Europe (Paris in the above example) by connecting via London, and can also have a stopover in London. Substitute Paris in the above example with any other European city. Note that you may pay more Avios depending on which European city you visit.
However, you will have to buy a ticket from that European city (Paris in the above example) back to Dublin or Shannon to return to the US.
This costs only 48,000 Membership Rewards points in coach or 96,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class if you take advantage of the 50% transfer bonus to British Airways until May 31, 2012.
4) US –> Brazil –> Paris & Paris –> US for 84,000 Avios & ~$379
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Paris (via London) for 34,500 Avios & $65 on British Airways
- Paris to Chicago (or other US cities) via London for 24,500 Avios & $290
In this example, we fly on British Airways from the European city (Paris, in this example) back to the US. Since we’re flying back to the US on British Airways, we’re paying extra fuel surcharges, but save on the cost of the ticket to Dublin (in #3 option)
This costs only 56,000 Membership Rewards points in coach or 112,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class if you take advantage of the 50% transfer bonus to British Airways until May 31, 2012.
5) US –> Brazil –> Paris –> London –> US for 84,000 Avios & ~$471
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Paris (via London) for 34,500 Avios & $65 on British Airways
- Paris to London for 4,500 Avios & $20 on British Airways
- London to Chicago for 20,000 Avios & $362 on British Airways
In this example you get a stop-over in Paris AND in London.
You can fly from Brazil to any European city (Paris in this example) via London. You may pay more Avios depending on which city you visit.
This costs only 48,000 Membership Rewards points in coach or 112,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class if you take advantage of the 50% transfer bonus to British Airways until May 31, 2012.
6) US –> Brazil –> Madrid & Dublin –> US for 62,500 Avios & ~$163
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Madrid on Iberia for 25,000 Avios & $49
- Dublin or Shanon to Boston for 12,500 Avios & ~$90
- OR Dublin or Shannon back to New York or Chicago for 20,000 Avios & ~$90 & Orlando for 25,000 Avios
Visiting 3 different continents
The itineraries below will let you visit at least 3 different continents for very little cash outlay.
However, you will need to either buy a separate 1-way ticket to return to the US, or use United or American Airlines miles for a coach award ticket back to the US (less than 40,000 miles United or American Airlines miles). You can transfer Chase Ultimate Rewards points to United and Starwood points to American Airlines.
7) US –> Brazil –> London –> Hong Kong for 85,000 Avios + $244
- New York, Dallas, Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Hong Kong (via London with no stopover) for 60,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
You don’t necessarily need to visit Hong Kong, but could visit any of British Airways’ Far East destinations using this itinerary.
That’s 3 continents and 16,000 miles of flying for only 85,000 Avios! In this example, you travel to Brazil, and have stop overs in London and Hong Kong.
That’s only 56,666 Membership Reward points in coach and 113,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class using the 50% transfer bonus.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Hong Kong, but you’re better of using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points.
8 ) US –> Brazil –> London –> Beijing –> Tokyo for 90,000 Avios or $337
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Beijing (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77.12 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
- Beijing to Tokyo for 10,000 Avios and $93 on Japan Airlines
In this example, you travel to Brazil, and have stop overs in London, Beijing and Tokyo for ~17,000 miles of flying.
This will cost 60,000 AMEX Membership Rewards points in coach and 120,000 points in Business Class after taking advantage of the 50% transfer bonus.
9) US –> Brazil –> London –> Beijing –> Hong Kong for 90,000 Avios & $290
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Beijing (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
- Beijing to Hong Kong for 10,000 Avios and $46 on Cathay Pacific
In this example, you travel to Brazil, and have stop overs in London, Beijing and Hong Kong.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Hong Kong, but you’re better off using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points.
That’s only 60,000 Membership Reward points in coach and 120,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class using the 50% transfer bonus.
10 ) US –>Brazil –>London –>Dubai –>Hong Kong for 95,000 Avios & $384
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Dubai (via London with no stopover) for 50,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $194 on British Airways
- Dubai to Hong Kong for 20,000 Avios and $166 on Cathay Pacific
In this example, you travel to Brazil, and have stop overs in London, Dubai (substitute for other British Airways Middle East destinations) and Hong Kong.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Hong Kong, but you’re better off using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points.
That’s only 63,333 Membership Reward points in coach and 126,000 Membership Rewards points in Business Class using the 50% transfer bonus.
11) US –> Brazil –> London –> Africa for 80,000 Avios & $244
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Nairobi (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
In this itinerary you can have stop overs in Brazil, London, and Nairobi (substitute for other British Airways African destinations).
That’s only 53,333 AMEX Membership Rewards points in coach and 106,000 points in Business Class after taking advantage of the 50% transfer bonus.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Africa, but you’re better off using 40,000 United or 37,500 American Airline miles for a 1-way award back to the US from Africa to avoid paying fuel surcharges when using Avios points.
If you do use American Airlines miles, you may have to travel via London and can’t avoid paying $250 on at least 1 segment on British Airways. Or you could buy a 1-way ticket back.
12) US –> Brazil –> London –> India for 80,000 Avios & $243
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Mumbai (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
In this itinerary you can have stop overs in Brazil, London, and Mumbai (substitute for other British Airways Indian destinations).
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from India, but you’re better off using 40,000 United or 45,000 American Airline miles for a 1-way award back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges when using Avios points. Or you could buy a 1-way ticket back.
That’s only 53,333 Membership Reward points in coach and 106,666 Membership Rewards points in Business Class using the 50% transfer bonus.
13) US –> Brazil –> London –> India –> Bangkok for 90,000 Avios & $283
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Mumbai (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
- Mumbai to Bangkok for 10,000 Avios or $39
In this itinerary you can have stop overs in Brazil, London, Mumbai and Bangkok (substitute for other British Airways African destinations).
This will cost 60,000 AMEX Membership Rewards points in coach and 120,000 points in Business Class after taking advantage of the 50% transfer bonus.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Bangkok, but you’re better off using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points. Or you could buy a 1-way ticket back.
14) US –> Brazil –> London –> India –> Hong Kong for 92,500 Avios & $395
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Mumbai (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
- Mumbai to Hong Kong for 12,500 Avios or $151
In this itinerary you can have stop overs in Brazil, London, Mumbai, and Hong Kong (substitute for other British Airways African destinations).
This will cost 61,666 AMEX Membership Rewards points in coach and 123,000 points in Business Class after taking advantage of the 50% transfer bonus.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Hong Kong, but you’re better off using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points.
Or you could buy a 1-way ticket back.Visiting 4 different continents
15) US –> Brazil –> London –> India –> Hong Kong –> Sydney for 117,500 Avios & $582
- New York, Dallas, or Miami to Rio de Janerio or Sao Paulo, Brazil for 25,000 Avios & $24
- Brazil to Mumbai (via London with no stopover) for 55,000 Avios & $77 or with a stopover in London for $220 on British Airways
- Mumbai to Hong Kong for 12,500 Avios & $151 on Cathay Pacific
- Hong Kong to Sydney for 25,000 Avios & $187 on Cathay Pacific
In this itinerary you can have stop overs in Brazil, London, India (substitute for other British Airways Indian destinations), Hong Kong, and Sydney (substitute for other Cathay Pacific Australian & New Zealand destinations)
This will cost 78,333 AMEX Membership Rewards points in coach and 156,666 points in Business Class after taking advantage of the 50% transfer bonus.
Of course, you’ll have to get back to the US from Hong Kong, but you’re better off using 32,500 United or 35,000 American Airline miles to get back to the US from Hong Kong to avoid paying fuel surcharges if you use your Avios points.
Or you could buy a 1-way ticket back. Bottom Line: There are ways to use Avios for travel in long-distance coach and business class for very little in taxes and fees!Please comment if you have any questions and I’ll either reply or write another post on the topic.