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How to Earn & Use Starwood Points: Part 4 – The Best Kept Secret of Nights & Flights

How to Earn & Use Starwood Points: Part 4 – The Best Kept Secret of Nights & Flights

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I’ve been digging into the Starwood hotel program because of the once-a-year up to 30,000 point bonus on the Starwood personal and business card.  These offers end on June 30, 2014.

How to Earn & Use Starwood Points: 

The Best Kept Secrets of Nights & Flights

Link:  Nights & Flights

Link:   Starwood Category 3 Hotels

Link:   Starwood Category 4 Hotels

Nights & Flights is a great redemption for long category 3 and 4 hotel stays.

5 free hotel nights AND 50,000 airline miles will cost you:

This may seem like a lot of Starwood points, but remember that you will get 35,000 Starwood points (30,000 from the sign-up bonus and 5,000 for the minimum spending) with either the personal or business Starwood card once you complete the minimum spending requirements.

Don’t forget that you can transfer Starwood points for free (as long as you share the same address), so your partner could apply for 1 card and you could apply for 1 card and you’d have 70,000 Starwood points!

Nights and Flights
60,000 Starwood Points for 50,000 Air Miles AND 5 Nights in a Category 3 Starwood Hotel

50,000 airline miles would ordinarily only cost you 40,000 Starwood hotel points (remember that you get 5,000 extra points transferred with every 20,000 Starwood points).

50,000 miles transferred to American Airlines or US Air will get you 2 coach round-trip tickets within the US or 50,000 of the 60,000 miles needed for 1 round-trip coach ticket to Europe or South America!

In my opinion, the best transfer partners are American Airlines and US Air because they don’t charge fuel surcharges for international redemptions and have relatively decent award availability.

British Airways could also work for short-distance flights within the US on American Airlines.

The miles are transferred to your airline account and you don’t have to use it along with your hotel stay.  You can use those miles at any time!

You normally get your 5th night free when you redeem Starwood points for 4 nights.  So you’d normally pay:

  • 28,000 points (7,000 points X 4 nights) for 5 nights in a category 3 hotel
  • 40,000 points (10,000 points X 4 nights) for 5 nights in a category 4 hotel

But, with Nights and Flights, you’re paying:

  • 20,000 points for 5 nights at a category 3 hotel (otherwise 28,000 points)
  • 30,000 points for 5 nights at a category 4 hotel (otherwise 40,000 points)

This means that you get a:

  • 8,000 point discount (29% discount) for 5 nights in a category 3 hotel
  • 10,000 point discount for 5 nights (25% discount) in a category 4 hotel

So you’re saving 8,000 or 10,000 Starwood points when you use Nights & Flights!

Example:  W San Diego

Let’s see how this works with an example.

Link:  W San Diego

The W San Diego is one of many Starwood hotels and resorts in downtown San Diego.

As a category 4 hotel, you could book a Nights & Flights hotel and airfare package at the W San Diego for 70,000 Starwood points.

Nights and Flights
W San Diego

The retail cost is $415 a night with taxes or $2,077 for 5 nights at the W San Diego for a random 5 day stay next summer.

Nights and Flights
$2,077 for 5 Nights At The W San Diego

And you’d pay $571 for airfare for 2 from Kansas City to San Diego from June 13, 2014 and returning on June 18, 2014.

Nights and Flights
$571 for 2 Roundtrip Tickets To San Diego From Kansas City

So the total retail cost is $2,648 ($2,077 for 5 nights at the W in San Diego and $571 for 2 fights  to San Diego.

Instead, you’re paying 70,000 Starwood points!

Of those 70,000 Starwood points:

  • 30,000 of your Starwood points go for the 5 nights hotel stay
  • 40,000 of your Starwood points get you 50,000 airline miles

Remember that the miles are transferred to your airline account and you can use them whenever you want.

Stays Longer Or Less Than 5 Nights

You can add more nights to a Nights & Flights package, but you will pay the standard rate of 7,000 points for a category 3 hotel & 10,000 points per night for a category 4 hotel.

You can’t stay less than 5 nights when using Nights & Flights.  And leaving early will not get you a refund of your points.  You may even be charged early departure fees, but usually no one notices if you just leave the hotel without checking-out.

Refunds

You can make changes to your hotel reservations if there are standard rooms available.

If you cancel your reservation, you get a refund of the points paid for the hotel part of the reservation only:

  • 20,000 points for a category 3 hotel or
  • 30,000 points for a category 4 hotel

There is no refund of the 40,000 Starwood points which you transferred to 50,000 air miles.  The air miles will remain in your account and you don’t lose them for canceling the nights and flights award.

If you’ve already booked your flights with miles, you will usually have to pay a fee to cancel the flights and get your miles back.

Category 3 Starwood Hotels

Link:  Starwood Category 3 Hotels

Check out the category 3 Starwood hotels in the link above.  One of our favorite hotel stays was a Category 3 Starwood hotel.

Nights and Flights
A Former Monastery Converted Into a Hotel in Evora, Portugal Was a Category 3 Hotel When We Visited

Category 4 Starwood Hotels

Link:  Starwood Category 4 Hotels 

Check out the category 4 Starwood hotels in the link above.  You can use a Nights and Flight package to get 5 nights in Disney World plus 50,000 miles (good for 2 low-level round-trip coach flights within the US).

Nights and Flights
The Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin are Category 4 Starwood Hotels!

Booking Details

You have to book night and flight awards on the phone and there is no fee for calling.  You can’t book these online.

You have to order a Nights and Flight award at least 14 business days (30 days for  non-US airlines) before your hotel check-in date to allow time to transfer the miles to your account.

That said, I’d make your transfer as soon as possible so that you have the most time to make your bookings.

You don’t earn Starwood points for the 5 nights hotel stay, but the 5 nights will qualify as an eligible stay towards earning elite or lifetime status.  However, it won’t count as a “stay” towards any other promotion.

Bottom Line

Nights & Flights can be a great use of Starwood points when you want to redeem for both a hotel stay and for airline miles.

2 cards can get you and your partner 5 nights in a category 3 Starwood hotel and 50,000 air miles which is good for 2 round-trip coach flights within the US!  Remember that you can transfer points for free to anyone else’s Starwood account (as long as you have the same address).

You pay only 60,000 Starwood points for 50,000 miles (2 domestic airline tickets) and 5 nights at a Category 3 hotel.

70,000 Starwood points will get you 2 domestic airline tickets and 5 nights at a Category 4 hotel.

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If I have a large family, and am planning to take my wife, and each kid (two) with their families…

I want to get each daughter and her husband and 2 kids their own rooms and pay for all 10 of our airfares.

Is it possible to do the Nights and Flights thing for 3 rooms?

70,000 points for each room, and then transferring 150,000 miles to my frequent flyer program of choice?

Or is it just a one room, one transfer thing?

Thank you

@Million Mile Secrets

interesting. but please explain how you determined these #s:

“But, with Nights and Flights, you’re paying:

20,000 points for 5 nights at a category 3 hotel (otherwise 28,000 points)

30,000 points for 5 nights at a category 4 hotel (otherwise 40,000 points)”

thanks

Can you use 5 nights at different hotels or just in one?

Do the starwood cards charge foreign transaction fees?

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Million Mile Secrets

@ted – Unfortunately, they do.

@ Alex – It has to be in the same hotel.

hmmmm I am taking a 2nd look at this….. say I want to stay at a cat. 4 hotel, but cash and points option isn’t available….. I could potentially stay for 5 nights,using 70k points….. this would be a deal b/c of the points in the airline account…..may I ask,what happens to the points in the airline account (say I just use the hotel part now) are they transferable to any other program,or are they ‘stuck’ now? just curious….

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Million Mile Secrets

@JM – Once you transfer the points to your airline account, they are stuck in your airline account and have to be used on that airline. You could transfer them to other hotels based on the airline transfer rules, but you will usually get a poor value for transferring.

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