British Airways 100,000 Point Offer Extended (Expired)

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The British Airways 100,000 Point offer which was supposed to end on June 7, 2012 has been extended.

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28 responses to “British Airways 100,000 Point Offer Extended (Expired)

  1. conversation between chase and BA:
    chase- hey, we just wanted to remind you that your cc offer is about to expire
    ba- ok…. what are we supposed to do about it now?
    chase- I dont know. We usually try and introduce a new offer that looks just like the last one but has a few more requirements so most people don’t get their rewards off of a technicality.
    ba- I like the sound of that…. keep talking
    chase- you also have the option of just extending the current offer. the average joe is barely able to get to 20k in spending so they’ll just rack up some good interest for us and we’ll all walk away with a smile on our face with as little extra work done as possible
    ba- I really don’t like to do extra work and i do like money
    chase- it’s decided then… renewal of the previous offer
    ba- agreed

    I’m pretty bored at my desk right now……

  2. @Joseph – Thanks for brightening up my morning!!! Funny post!

  3. @Joseph – Yes!

  4. Ugh, now we get to hear about it all over again on every blog the next time it’s set to expire.

  5. Robert Hanson

    “The offer likely wasn’t doing as well as previous versions, so it was extended”.

    Let’s do more of what isn’t working… LOL

    But maybe they expect it will start working better now, because:

    None of the travel blogs I’ve seen are mentioning that AA has recently gutted it’s premium award availability to Europe.

    Try searching for 2 FC and/or 2 J US to LHR award seats, from anywhere in the US, on any date on AA metal. I just did that again for today thru the end of AA’s booking period for LAX, ORD, JFK, even MIA, for 2 seats. Not one flight was available, not even for tomorrow. Not even today’s 6:15 pm flight ORD to LHR that only has 4 of the 16 seats booked, including 1A which is probably set aside for flight crew use. 12 FC seats open, 8 hours before the flight, and no award ticket allowed…

    And I chose LHR, since that has been the most available route to Europe on AA in the past. Checking on FRA and ZRH produces the same results. Economy is readily available, Business/First has not one double award open from either LAX, ORD, or JFK all year long.

    It’s been this way ever since AA began showing BA award availability on the AA website. No 2 award seats to Europe available on any flight, on any route, on any date, all year long. The new policy seems to be: let them eat cake, {oppss}, fly BA, with the huge fuel surchages that entails.

    Basically, for any couple wanting to fly together, Saver awards to Europe no longer exist on AA metal. For everyone who has said “I will never fly BA T/A because of the fuel surchages”, if you want to travel with someone, at least to Europe without fuel surcharges, AA no longer gives you that choice.

    Although as Lucky points out, Cathay and Eithad award availability is still excellent. At least for last minute bookings.

    For those of us mainly interested in Europe however, and who have a significant other that we can’t stow away in J, while we fly FC 🙂 the actual effect is that non-surcharge Saver awards to Europe have been eliminated. As an AA Lifetime Gold, with nearly all of my current miles in AA, having this done to the program with no advance notice really makes me angry {profanity reluctantly withheld for the benefit of this blog”s classy atmosphere}.

    So maybe BA is thinking, now that we can’t avoid the fuel surchages on Europe awards anymore, we will be more interested in getting the BA card. I’ll tell you what I’m thinking, I’m thinking I’m really hoping US Air brings back the Grand Slam this year…..

  6. @Robert – Don’t you dare insult AA! It’s the best program out there, according to all the popular bloggers who just happened to have received ExPlat status at the MegaDo. And would they lie to you?

    I’ll admit that this card only appeals to me for domestic last-minute redemption and for LAN/TAM intra-SA flights after that merger completes.

  7. Do Avois transfer anywhere?

  8. With the Peru trip
    This card is becoming appealing.

    I remember D mentioned that this is great for short south American flights.
    How can find one?

  9. Robert Hanson

    @ Harvson I’m Lifetime Gold with AA, and it WAS the best card out there for many years. I’ve had more free FC TA flights than I would have dreamed possible. And we have another FC LHR trip coming this summer, which I was lucky to have booked last October. Now, as we have read recently, AA is only interested in high revenue, what have you done for me lately passengers. Fair enough, my wife and I have both recently gotten 40K miles sign up bonus US Air cards, each with a targeted additional 15K miles bonus for spending $1200 a month for 3 months.

    When that’s up, we are going to continue using our US Air cards, mindful of the 10K mile card renewal bonus and hopeful about the Grand Slam happening again this year. The AA cards are not getting any spend at all, since I already have more miles with AA than they care to have me spend with them. We’ll probably use the miles in our accounts to go to Thailand with Cathay. But we’re not going out of our way to get more. Are you reading this, Citibank and AA?

    Oh, and I’m applying for an Alaska card on my next churn, which comes with a companion ticket. I’m not really much for cruises, but that’s the only way to see coastal Alaska, and my wife hasn’t been there yet. Bye Bye, AA, it was fun while it lasted. But you’ve lost that loving feeling, and others are being much nicer to us.

  10. A friend of mine wanted this card but then told me he was also planning on booking a BA ticket so I told him to just apply for the 100k offer available when booking a ticket. For some reason though the site kept giving an error after trying to apply.

    Instead we tried doing a one way refundable dummy booking to LHR by following the directions posted on the flyertalk forum you posted on a previous post and – voila- my friend was approved for a 100k BA ticket without a spending limit – 50k.miles after first purchase and the other 50k after renewing in a year.

    Uber fail on chases part that works out to out advantage!

    • @HikerT – Or you could skip reading those posts! 🙂

      @Robert Hanson – I agree that availability is low now, but it usually ebbs and flows. One day there is nothing, and the next day it is all blue! BTW, I did find 2 seats in November on AA 90 in business, but availability on AA flights did seem to be lower than usual. I also don’t recommend depositing a spouse in J while you’re in F (the reverse may be okay, but better to sit together!).

      It is always wise to diversify your miles, so collecting Chase Ultimate Rewards, US Air and Alaska Air miles should help when it is time to book an award ticket. BTW, US Air does block Lufthansa First Class seats, which are released only a few weeks out and also doesn’t allow any date or time change once you depart. Otherwise, date and time changes are $150 per person!

      It could also be that BA has SO much more award seats from the US to the UK, that it just “crowds out” the AA award seats in the search results. But, I do agree that availability off late seems to have shrunk.

      @harvson3 – That’s a good use of Avios points!

      @Mike H – Unfortunately, they don’t. But you could use them for hotels or car rentals.

      @Mark – You can search for LAN awards using the BA website or calling BA. http://millionmilesecrets.com/2012/04/09/lan-awards/

      @bartny
      – Glad it worked out and thanks for sharing!

  11. I wonder how this offer is doing as apposed to the BA ticket trick? Even though there are differences good and bad with the two offers I feel the BA ticket trick is a much better offer. That is if you have the time to wait for the second 50,000.

  12. Robert Hanson

    “It could also be that BA has SO much more award seats from the US to the UK, that it just “crowds out” the AA award seats in the search results.”

    In a word: NO.

    I’m checking the box for AA, American Eagle, and Alaska ONLY. So no BA $800 fuel surcharge options show up at all {I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck, I’m AA Lifetime Gold, and I didn’t get any of it from Corporate reimbursement travel}. 🙂

    “BTW, US Air does block Lufthansa First Class seats”

    Yes, but I’m not trying to get any Lufthansa seats. My goal with US Air miles is Aus/NZ on Air New Zealand. Of course, they could do the same devaluation of miles AA has done, so I’m going to book something as soon as I get the miles. Just as I did last Oct with AA miles for our FC trip to LHR this August. For which I’m so glad now that I did….

    Oh, and I did just pick up one of those BA no minimum spend 100K cards, so there’s enough miles for both of us to J it to the Emerald Isle from Boston with Aer Lingus. And then take Ryan Air, Easy Jet, or the ferry to Wales, when we get tired of the pubs. Assuming the wife also gets one on her next churn, that’s R/T Boston to Ireland twice in J.

    No caviar, no Krug, and angled rather than flat, but it’s only 6.5 hours over, and 7 return. We’ll get thru it somehow. 🙂

    So I can afford to ignore AA, can they afford to have me ignore them, as they go thru bankruptcy?

    To paraphrase Dylan: “The {travel hackers} don’t need you, and man they expect the same”. 🙂

    • @rdaven – If you aren’t spending $30,000 a year on the BA card to get the Companion travel certificate, I’d say the ticket trick is the better offer since you get 50K in the 1st year and then another 50K in the 2nd year.

      @Robert Hanson
      – I wasn’t suggesting that you were a nube. 🙂 But I still see a fair amount of blue for business class seats on AA metal in April and May 2013 for 2 folks from Chicago to London.

      The takeaway for me is that you shouldn’t accumulate miles in only 1 program because “stuff happens” – devaluations, partners drop off, award availability gets tougher etc. And don’t get mad, get even!

      AA is likely to emerge from bankruptcy stronger, because they would have reduced their labor costs and bailed out on a few other obligations or at least negotiated more favorable rates.

      @ay – I don’t believe it is, but it doesn’t hurt to try.

  13. Thanks for a great and informative blog, has helped very much in scoring good cc offers! Is it possible to downgrade the Chase united mileage plus explorer card? what about the Chase British airways? thanks

  14. Do you think it’s possible to get the 2 Citi AA cards and the Chase British Airways at the same time? If so, should all 3 be applied for on the same day?

  15. Robert Hanson

    Update: Two days ago, I posted my ranting and raving frustration about how AA had stopped offering any premium cabin availability US to Europe. From any gateway, to any destination, in either FC or J, on any day all year long. While it is usual for AA to post new availability in bunches, it has never been this bad, for this long. Which I say as a Lifetime Gold who has been flying AA FC T/A awards for decades. I posted my anger about this first on Lucky’s blog, then added my “Bye, Bye AA” post here.

    Well, guess what? Not even two days later, AA has opened up huge J availability to Europe. Nearly half of the dates from November thru April are now available with connecting flights, and there are even a couple of non-stops from LAX-LHR open each month.

    Coincidence? Maybe, but it just seems too much for that. I reach my boiling point after 3 months, and just happen to post twice the very day before AA was going to open up 6 months of award availability, after 3 months of not a day being open. Again, maybe, but it seems more likely that AA, which now has an official Twitter team, also has an unofficial travel blog reader. Who notified AA that the natives were getting restless, and posting about switching to other programs due to award non-availability. And AA decided they had better open some dates up fast.

    Assuming I’m right about this:

    AA, how about opening up non-stop FC seats 10 months out, on virtually every flight, as you used to do?

    • @Char – I don’t your specifics, so can’t comment, but folks have managed to get both the Citi AA cards as well as a Chase card on the same day.

      @Robert Hanson – Perhaps you should post a “Bye, Bye Delta” posts as well!

  16. Robert Hanson

    “Perhaps you should post a “Bye, Bye Delta” post as well!”

    Hah ! Maybe I should. But are you ready to book your SkyPesos trip the moment I post that? Because those J seats on AA were only there for 36 hours, and then they disappeared. Mirage? All I know is, for around 3 months there was nothing available at all. Then I posted my anguish, and for 36 hours it seemed there was a lot of J, but only beginning in November. Almost none of which got booked due to the short notice. And now again, nothing……

    Due due due due, Due due due due {old theme music from the Twilight Zone, a TV program on before Daraius was born}.
    Now again, there is nothing, ok virtually nothing, in AA metal premium class to Europe. Yes, on July 26 or 29, depending on the gateway, two people can go J from DFW, ORD, or JFK to LHR. On that date, and that date only, with nothing else for the next 10 months. Oh, you wanted to come back, too? Out of the question…..

    As Lucky posted today:

    “Award availability across all three alliances has been cut drastically. This isn’t specific to summer, unfortunately. For OneWorld, American has almost entirely stopped releasing premium cabin transatlantic award space, while in the past they were among the most generous.”

    So yeah, American isn’t any worse than the others, it just hurts more, because we used to be able to count on them, and now we can’t. In the meantime, my wife and I have our AA non-stop FC 777 to LHR for this August, presciently booked as MileSAAver awards last October, so we can sit this out for a while and see what happens. But I’ve got news for AA and Citibank. With our trip this summer already booked and paid for, and a combined 550K miles in our AA accounts, I’m not spending a single penny on my Citi AAdvantage credit card. Which last year, when it was my only card, was good for tens of thousands of dollars in spend. When it doesn’t get spent on the Citi card, Citi doesn’t buy miles from AA, which has been their main source of profit for years. As AA makes redeeming miles impossible, and people stop doing things to get more useless miles, AA is going to see the sales of miles drop.

    Not my problem, I’m spending where I get the most benefits today, then cashing in those miles and points as soon as I can, before they too are devalued. With my decades of experience in rooting out award space, the free time to search for it, and the flexibility of travel dates to use whatever I can find, we’ll be fine. We will get the few premium seats AA opens up, and be able to use the miles already in our accounts.

    I just won’t be going out of my way to get more miles from AA. Certainly not with US Air giving us targeted spend bonuses of 15K miles each, {beyond the sign up bonus}, and hopefully another Grand Slam this year. And Alaska Air giving us the $99 companion pass to Hawaii.

    AA valued my loyalty at zero, and now that’s what I’m giving them back….

  17. @Robert Hanson: Perhaps AA is about to seriously devalue their AAdvantage miles. So much for their promises at the time of bankruptcy announcement. Brace yourself for another “program enhancement” 😉

  18. @Max Worse than that, they have ALREADY devalued AA miles. Whereas last fall it was easy for us to book our MileSAAver FC to LHR for 125K miles r/t, by booking it 10 months out, it’s virtually impossible to book that award now. Even for travel in January, when US AIR has a greatly reduced J award, because really who wants a leisure trip to Europe when it’s 20 degrees in Paris…..now you can only book Anytime awards, which in FC comes out to 250K miles r/t.

    They have effectively devalued their miles by half. Without the negative consequences of issuing a press release, which would give the average person a heads up that AA miles are turning into SkyPesos, or worse. So anyone who doesn’t search the AA booking website daily, {as I do whether I have a booking coming up or not just to keep in touch with how AA is doing things}, and who hasn’t read my posts here and on One Mile At A Time, probably doesn’t know this is already a fait accompli.

    AA also promised not to impose fuel surchages in the near future, which again they cleverly managed to do without a public announcement. Now, as Lucky said in his post, the only way to use AA miles for a premium seat to Europe is to book it on BA. AA, of course, imposes those fuel surcharges for BA bookings.

    So at this point in time, it seems AA is trying out a new award system, without being upfront about it. The new system is pay FS for BA MileSAAver awards, or pay double miles for AA metal Anytime awards, no matter how far in advance you book them.

    The clever thing about this new policy is that they don’t have to make an announcement that would alert the general public to what they have done. So if it turns out that this eventually begins to hurt their bottom line, due to reduced sales of miles to their partners like credit card companies, car rental cos, etc. they can just start to open the awards again. Without admitting the devaluation was a mistake. And Daraius will then say “see, I told you award availability ebbs and flows”. My guess is they are hoping this stealth devaluation works without anyone realising what they have done. We will eventually adjust to this as the new normal.

    Whether I am right or Daraius is right depends on whether AA gets away with the devaluation without losing it’s profit on miles sales, and a reduction in travel loyalty by revenue passengers. I for one am not going to reward them for doing this by putting a single extra penny on my Citi AA cards, or having partner points go to AA miles. For those who haven’t heard, Avis has a special booking code which gets you 3000 US AIR miles for a 3 day or longer rental from Avis airport locations. You must apply the coupon code MUAA044 and your US AIR number when you book. Airport rentals only….

    I read recently that a top AA executive said that AA is shifting it’s attention away from long term loyalty members to high revenue passengers. No kidding…

    Since I am a miles member, not a revenue passenger, they think they don’t really need me. They seem to have forgotten that every mile I get has been purchased from AA. And even when an Exec Plat books a discount economy seat and uses a SWU, for a flight they wouldn’t have taken without the SWU, that’s a seat that otherwise would go empty. Likewise for everyone of us who uses a sale fare to make a mileage run. Those additional discount ticket sales filling empty seats make the difference between a flight that makes money, and one that loses it.

    I’m betting that dissing their long term loyalty members {I’m Lifetime Gold} will seriously hurt their bottom line income. But not until the general public finds out about the new booking policy. Up until now, when my friends dismiss my miles hobby out of sceptcism that award seats will be available, I’ve been able to point out how many TATL FC trips I’ve taken with miles. {Hint: in the multiple dozens}. Now however I’m going to tell them they are right, and not to bother with miles from AA and Delta. At least not for Europe, although according to Lucky Asia is still wide open with AA miles. I’ve got travel DVDs ordered from Netflix for Thailand, so maybe that’s next year’s destination. And we’ve got the miles saved that we were going to use for Europe that we can now use for Cathay FC. Although as my wife keeps reminding me, once I fly an Asian airline, I’ll never really appreciate a domestic carrier again.

    I said Bye Bye AA; perhaps I should have said Bye Bye Citi AAdvantage cards, Bye Bye AA awards with Avis and Hertz, Bye Bye SPG transfers to AA. And absolutely Bye Bye to my telling my friends about AA’s mileage program. Certainly as long as AA refuses to make premium TATL seats available, and US AIR has a card with no minimum spend with 40K sign up bonus, 10K yearly renewal bonus, and a targeted $15 spending bonus. {Hint, make a first purchase on the card, then don’t use it, and if you are lucky, in a couple of months, you will get an email offering 15K miles for spending $1200 a month for 3 months in a row}.

    Really hoping for a US AIR Grand Slam this year….

    • @Robert Hanson – Have I told you how I admire your long well-reasoned comments? My personal view is that we’re at the beginning of the end of easy award availability in the US. We’re extremely spoilt in the US with no fuel surcharges and reasonable award charts (compared to EU or Asian airlines).

      But I don’t expect that to last with airline consolidations. Delta has already signaled to the remaining airlines what they really think about frequent flyer programs. I fully expect United to move in that direction once the merger hiccups become more distant. So that leaves Alaska, American, and US Air. I suspect 2 of those 3 airlines will merge and eventually devalue their chart or charge fuel surcharges.

      Also, American is reducing the amount of FC seats since their new planes will have business and coach and coach plus. That said, it doesn’t hurt to collect as many air miles as you can by not flying. It gives you more options when it comes time to search for flights. We loved Thailand, and I’m sure you’ll have a great time – especially if you’re in Cathay. It’s also much cheaper than visiting Europe!

      @Max – I fully expect a devaluation, but after the merger is completed.

  19. @Char

    I applied for a Chase Sapphire Preferred (40K point bonus) and the two Citi AAdvantage cards within a few days and was approved for all three.

  20. Received my BA Visa card today. When I called to activate, the representative told me TWICE that I get” 100K miles after 1st use.”

    Knowing that the offer I applied for was 50K, then 50K in the 2nd year, I decided not to press her. I’ll just wait until my 1st statement and see what happens!

  21. @Glen – You might be able to have them review the tapes and honor the 100k miles after 1st purchase. It was definitely an error on her part.

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