Reader Request: What’s The Best Way to Get Lots of Hilton or Hyatt Points? Part 2 – Hyatt Points

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Yesterday, we looked at the different ways to earn Hilton points.  Let’s look at how to earn Hyatt points today.  As expected, the big point earning opportunities are by earning Ultimate Rewards points and transferring the points in a 1:1 ratio to Hyatt.  In my experience, it is easier finding availability using Hyatt points than with Hilton points.

Hyatt Credit Cards

Emily in our Hyatt Suite in Bangkok

Hyatt doesn’t have as many hotels as Hilton, but requires only 22,000 points for their top hotels and 5,000 points for their lowest category hotels.  Surprisingly, the best way to earn Hyatt points via actual spending (besides spending at Hyatt hotels) is NOT on the Hyatt credit card, but on other Chase Ultimate Rewards points cards.

You can use your Hyatt points to have Big Travel with Small Money at the low category hotels, or save them up to use at the top category Hyatts in Paris, Tokyo, Maldives, London, Switzerland which usually sell for over $500 a night.

I have a soft spot for Hyatt hotels because Emily and I had a very memorable stay in London and because the staff at the Grand Hyatt in Bangkok were so helpful when Emily fell sick.

200,000 Hyatt Points + 2 free nights

You can earn 200,000 Hyatt points & 2 free nights, if you eventually apply for all the possible cards which earn Hyatt points.  However, the minimum spending is a very high $24,500.

You shouldn’t apply for all the cards at the same time because they are all from Chase!  And you should not apply for credit cards if you have a big loan in the next 2 years.

Hyatt Credit Card

1.  Chase Hyatt Visa Credit Card

Sign-up Bonus:   The Hyatt card offers 2 free nights after spending $1,000 within 3 months and free Hyatt Platinum status (free internet!) as long as you have the card.

The lowest level category 1 hotels are 5,000 points a night and the highest category 6  hotels are 22,000 points a night.  So you’re getting a minimum value of 10,000 points if you redeem your 2 free nights for the cheapest hotels or a maximum value of 44,000 if you redeem for 2 free nights at the top category hotels.

Earning Hyatt Points:   The Hyatt card is the best card to use for earning points at a Hyatt hotel because you earn 3 Hyatt points for every $1 spent at Hyatt.  But, it is NOT the best card to use for non-Hyatt hotel spending because you earn only 1 point per $1.

In contrast, you can earn 2X points on Travel and Dining on the Chase Sapphire Preferred, or 5X points on office Supplies and telecom on the Chase Ink Bold, Ink Classic, or Ink Cash, or 5X points on certain rotating categories with the Chase Freedom and you can then transfer the points back to Hyatt.

I’ll gladly pay the $75 fee for the Hyatt card for a long time because I get a free night every year in a Category 1 to 4 hotel which is worth between 5,000 to 15,000 Hyatt points.  Well worth the $75 annual fee to me!

Ultimate Rewards Points – Direct 1:1 Transfer to Hyatt

1.   Chase Sapphire Preferred Visa 

Sign-up Bonus:  The Chase Sapphire Preferred has both a Visa and MasterCard version which offer 40,000 Ultimate Rewards points after spending $4,000 within 3 months.  And Ultimate Rewards can be transferred to Hyatt in a 1:1 ratio.

Earning Hyatt Points:   You earn 2 points per $1 spent on travel and dining, so you’re better off putting those expenses on your Sapphire Preferred than on your Hyatt credit card.  And then transfer Ultimate Rewards points to Hyatt.

2.   Chase Ink Bold & Chase Ink Plus

Sign-Up Bonus:   You earn 50,000 Ultimate Rewards points after spending $5,000 within 3 months.

Earning Hyatt Points:   You earn 5X points on  office supply stores and telecom (cable, wireless, internet) so you may be better off paying for those expenses on your Ink Bold and then transferring the points to Hyatt.

You can buy $500 gift cards from office supply stores (Office Max etc.) and then use those gift cards for your everyday spending to get extra points.  This is inconvenient, but is a good way to get lots of extra points for the amount you spend.  You will still come out ahead even with the $6 to $7 fee for the $500 gift card.

Also check out this post by Frequent Miler on how to buy a re-loadable AMEX, load it with up to $2,000, and then use that for all your spending.

Ultimate Rewards Points – Transfer to Hyatt via Sapphire Preferred, Ink Bold, or JP Morgan Select

Ultimate Rewards points earned from the cards below cannot be directly transferred to Hyatt.

But you can transfer Ultimate Rewards points earned on the Chase Freedom to your Chase Sapphire Preferred, Chase Ink Bold, or JP Morgan select card and then to Hyatt at a 1:1 ratio!

1.   Chase Freedom

Sign-Up Bonus:   Earn 15,000 Ultimate Rewards points ($150 cash back) after spending $500 within 3 months.  Just like with the Chase Sapphire Preferred, you may be able to get the bonus once for each version.

Earning Hyatt Points:   You earn 5X points on  different types of purchases (gas, groceries, etc.) each quarter subject to a maximum of $1,500 or 7,500 points per quarter.

This card doesn’t have an annual fee so it is a great card to keep to build a long term credit history and to use for the quarterly rotating categories.  You can earn 30,000 bonus points if you max out the $1,500 category limit each quarter for $ 6,000 in annual spending!

If you have a Chase checking account, you will earn 10 extra points per purchase and a 10% point bonus on each transaction.

2.   Chase Sapphire Visa

Sign-up Bonus:  The Chase Sapphire Visa has a 10,000 point sign-up bonus after spending $500 within 3 months.

Earning Hyatt Points: You earn 2X points per $1 only on dining and 1 point per $1 on everything else.  In contrast, the Chase Sapphire Preferred earns 2X points on dining AND travel.

3.  Chase Ink Classic

Sign-up Bonus:   Earn 20,000 Ultimate Rewards points after spending $3,000 within the 1st 3 months on the Chase Ink Classic Credit Card.

Earning Hyatt Points:   You earn 5X points on  office supply stores and telecom (cable, wireless, internet) and 2X points on hotel and gas subject to a $25,000 annual cap on each category.

You can use the same gift card strategies for the Ink Bold with this card to earn 5X points on most of your purchases.  There is no annual fee.

4.   Chase Ink Cash

This card has the same sign-on bonus and earnings as the Chase Ink Classic, except that you get 2X points on dining (not hotels) and gas.

Ultimate Rewards Shopping Mall

After credit card sign-on bonuses, the easiest way to earn lots of miles and points is by clicking through to a mile and point earning portal to buy stuff which you would have otherwise bought.

The Ultimate Rewards portal is a great way to earn extra points which can then be transferred to Hyatt.

For example, why not click through the Ultimate Rewards portal for your $100 Kohl’s purchase and earn 10X points or 1,000 points for the same purchase?

Bottom Line:  It is fairly easy to rack up lots of Hyatt points for Big Travel with Small Money.  If you do like staying in Hyatt hotels, you should consider the Hyatt Visa card because the free night certificate each year is well worth the $75 annual fee.

Please comment if you know of other ways to earn lots of Hyatt points!

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78 responses to “Reader Request: What’s The Best Way to Get Lots of Hilton or Hyatt Points? Part 2 – Hyatt Points

  1. pandaexpressrocks

    Hi Darius,
    This is a bit off topic, but regarding previous sign up for Platinum Status via Visa Signature card, do they occur periodically? I didn’t sign up for it because I haven’t got a chance to sign up for a Chase Sapphire yet. I hope I am not losing out forever. I did try my Freedom, it seems my kind wasn’t accepted then. Another Great Post!! I never thought my UR points were good for Hyatt too!!

  2. I think your “very memorable stay in London” link is linking to something else…?

  3. Can you have the Chase Sapphire Preferred and sign up for the Chase Sapphire? Or do you have to cancel the preferred first?

  4. “I’ll gladly pay the $75 fee for the Hyatt card for a long time because I get a free night every year in a Category 1 to 4 hotel which is worth between 5,000 to 15,000 Hyatt points. Well worth the $75 annual fee to me!” — is this true for everyone with the Hyatt card? I couldn’t find this info on the card benefits. Thanks. Snow

  5. Between my wife and I, we have almost 200,000 Ultimate Rewards points. I was mostly going to use them to transfer to Southwest for short haul domestic flights. Is there greater value in using them for Hyatt points than for flights? Thanks

  6. Israel Husarsky

    I find that Hyatt resorts are nicer than Hilton – but that is from a limited experience. I also find that Hyatt has more availibility to use the free points.

    In terms of Hilton coting 50,000 points vs. Hyatt only 22,000 for a top tier hotel, Hilton gives out any more points per transaction.
    For Hyatt you are correct – the best way is use a freedom card (especially if you are a chase banking customer) with the quarterly promotions & transfer to Sapphire pre. & then on to Hyatt.

  7. @snow Yes, this should be true for everyone. It’s also listed on the application page: “One Anniversary Award Night each year, in category 1-4 properties*”

  8. @Eric T- That depends whether you WANT to stay in nice hotels etc. I would say that in terms of pure value they carry more value as hyatt (or united) pts then they do as SW points. Look at it this way. 25k UR points can get you a united ticket worth say 750 last minute from ny to vegas or something like that. 22,500 UR can in theory land you a 1000 dollar a night stay in a hyatt in paris. Their pure value in 25k southwest travel is in the 400 dollars range. Having said that if the goal is to be able to fly short haul to visit someone and you have a place to stay etc and you aren’t looking to CREATE a vacation or uniqe trip out of the points then SW is a very nice option. The thing about SW is that there are OTHER options to rack up SW miles (like 150k from 3 credit cards that are unique to earing SW miles)..

  9. the same can be said for United Airlines points. I’ve managed to get 150,000 points with Continental + United MP + Chase SP. Once you have SP visa, can you downgrade to regular Sapphire (25k? in 2013), get INK bold (25+25k 2013), downgrade to INK cash(25k 2014), get SP mastercard (40k 2014)?

  10. Nice Darius forgot about the various kinds of cards I could use to transfer to Hyatt, I was only thinking Freedom and Sapphire Preferred. Not sure if you want to add this to the post but you will need the Sapphire Preferred or Ink Bold (one of the cards with annual fee) to transfer UR pts to Hyatt, unless there’s a work around somewhere.

    I current have Chase checking and the Freedom card. My next round of cards to apply for will be Sapphire Preferred and Ink Bold (later downgrade to Ink Classic to avoid the fee but keep earning 5x category bonus on phone, internet, etc) I do plan to keep Sapphire Preferred just to move UR pts around and love the 2x on restaurants/travel.

  11. I plan on using my UR points for a stay at Hyatt in Paris next year. Have you run into any problems redeeming your Hyatt points for their top tier properties? Also when you are traveling for vacations how far in advance do you typically look to request your rooms?

  12. @webazoid – When you downgrade a card I don’t think you are eligible to receive the sign on bonus since it’s not technically a new card for you. I’d love to be proven wrong though. So, has anyone converted an existing card and gotten the bonus points for both the original card AND the new downgraded card?

  13. @Perry
    I believe it depends on the season and availability. Summer of course is difficult, but I recently redeemed 7 nights at the Park Hyatt Vendome the last week in March, which was Easter vacation. And crowded in Paris. I booked the room 4 months in advance and there was plenty of availability.

    • @pandaexpressrocks – Actually, you can transfer UR points to airlines (United, Korean Air, British Air) and to certain hotels as well. I think Hyatt had a similar promotion a few months ago as well, but don’t know when the next one will be. BTW, you also get Hyatt Platinum status with the Hyatt credit card.

      @Scott – Thanks! Link fixed.

      @snow – As Keith points out, it is a benefit for all Hyatt card holders!

      @EricT – I wouldn’t transfer them immediately, because you lose the option to transfer them later. As mike fein points out, you could get better “value” by using them with United or Hyatt, but it all depends on how you travel and what you enjoy doing with your miles and points.

      @Israel Husarsky – I agree with you that, on average, the Hilton resorts aren’t as good as Hyatts, but it is fairly easy to earn Hilton points.

      @webazoid – As Ken points out, you don’t get the sign on bonus for downgrading the card.

      @mike fein @keith @Ken @Will – Thanks for helping out!

      @Grant – Thanks! I did mention “Ultimate Rewards points earned from the cards below cannot be directly transferred to Hyatt.

      But you can transfer Ultimate Rewards points earned on the Chase Freedom to your Chase Sapphire Preferred, Chase Ink Bold, or JP Morgan select card and then to Hyatt at a 1:1 ratio!”

      I suspect you won’t get the sign-on bonus if you downgrade the card, though.

      @Perry – I usually book my rooms in advance since there is usually no penalty for cancelling a points booking. I’ve found it pretty easy to book Hyatt hotels, but it may be harder if you do it closer-in. Nice facebook pics!

  14. in regards to the regular Sapphire, Ink and the Freedom wouldn’t you have to have either a Sapphire Preferred or Ink Bold to be able to transfer those points into UR points?

  15. Israel Husarsky

    I have downgraded both of my Sapphire preferred for me & my wife to plain Sapphire since our fee was coming up in June (I kept the line open for future credit shifting.

    Now that I do not have the sapphire preferred which was a visa – if I use the Mastercard link which you have on your Hyatt post today – will I get the bonus points if approved.
    The T&C says first time account holders?

  16. Great, great, great post D! Very informative. I think when we go to Europe we will be using my 2 free night certificates and then using my Ultimate Rewards for a suite the rest of the stay. Can I use points to upgrade my free night certificates to a suite or no dice? It would be great if that was possible.
    Thanks!!! And how was Bangkok…aside from Emily falling ill?

  17. @Israel- You most certainly will get a second bonus when approved and you meet minimum spend

  18. Thanks Darius, I don’t have the SP or Ink yet so I thought it was all bundled in the same Ultimate Rewards if you have multiple cards for UR. Didn’t know you had to transfer the UR from Freedom to SP or INk

  19. Before you redeem Chase points for a 22,000-point hotel night, keep in mind that you coud be cashing out those points for $220. So while the retail value of the hotel room may be $500, ask yourself if you’d even pay $220 for it. For some, the answer may be yes, but for me, the answer is usually no, as I can usually find perfectly satisfactory hotels for well under $220 even in expensive cities (especially with priceline). I just don’t care too much for an ultra-fancy hotel, but obviously everyone is different.

  20. i know that you should not apply for chase cards within 30 days of each other, but how about 60 days apart…any experience there or is it better to do a 90 day churn? also what is max # of personal chase cards allowed?

  21. i have hyatt online account but no points and no hyatt card. I tried to do a demo check to see how many points it takes to redeem for a night but says YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 5K HYATT POINTS. so looks like you can’t check that unless you actually have hyatt points in hyatt account.
    but i saw this http://www.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp it says 5k hyatt points for category 1 hyatt hotels worldwide and i see the hyatt in Kahmandu listed in hyatt category 1.
    Does this mean if i stay anytime/any date at the HYATT in kathmandu, i can stay a night for only 5k points guaranteed?

    please reply.
    thanks

  22. The tough thing I’m finding with the Hyatt points is not being able to check award availability unless you have adequate points in the account. I would like to stay at a Hyatt in Miami for a stopover in August, but I don’t want to transfer over the 7000 points from Ultimate Rewards just to check and find out I can’t use them. Any suggestions around this? I supposed calling Hyatt is the only way?

    • @mike – You’re right – you would need either the Sapphire Preferred, Ink Bold, or JP Morgan Select card to transfer points earned from the other cards to Hyatt (I mentioned that in the post!)

      @Israel Husarsky – I don’t have personal experience (yet!), but I believe you could get the bonus on the MasterCard.

      @corinne
      – Thanks! You can’t use points to upgrade to a suite on an award reservation. But, you could spend 33,000 points instead of 22,000 points (assuming you’d redeem at a top category hotel) in a suite for the 1st night, and then use your free nights for the 2nd and 3rd day. If you’re lucky and reach out to the hotel in advance, they may just let you stay in the suite for all 3 nights. Bangkok was nice, but we were there for only 2 days (trip report is much delayed!).

      @mike fein – Thanks for helping out!

      @Grant – You have to transfer the UR from the other cards to the Ink Bold, Sapphire Preferred or JP Morgan Select in order to transfer them to Hyatt.

      @N – Very good point. Not everyone wants to stay in fancy hotels, and for some, the cash value could be a better deal.

      @mike – It depends on your profile. I’ve got 5 to 6 Chase cards open and either transfer the credit line or cancel a card to get approved for another one. If you’re only applying for 1 or 2 cards, you could be able to get them within 30 to 60 days of each other.

      @ROBERT – As long as the Hyatt Kathmandu is listed as a category 1 hotel, you should be able to redeem 5,000 points for 1 night as long as the hotel is selling a regular room.

      @EricT
      – You can call Hyatt and ask them, or post your travel dates and I can look it up!

  23. Can you speak to transferring UR b/w people? Is that limited by relationship, address, etc? What about type of card (for ex, someone who only has a freedom, can they transfer UR to someone else)?

  24. @J- you can transfer UR between ANY two accounts. If you want to transfer freedom points simply transfer them to one UR account and then transfer between UR accounts as you please.

  25. D- I can as of today confirm receiving bonuses (50k) on both chase sapphire pref visa and mc (both in last 4 months)

  26. I applied for and received a Hyatt Card with $75 annual fee and then saw your link. I called Chase and they said that the link is only for people who booked a room and then used the link – is that true and is there an offer code I can give them to receive the credit? Thanks!

  27. Can anyone comment on transferring UR points to say UA for travel. Are these points “better” than the usual miles when attempting to book award travel? This may seem like an idiotic question, however, when trying to book award travel with “miles earned from travel, United credit card, etc” it is a major pain in the behind and one can rarely get the trip wanted for the minimum number of miles. Is booking with UR points somehow a different experience?
    Replies are greatly appreciated

  28. W/ the sapphire, do you get the 7% bonus even on points transferred in from another card (i.e. freedom) or even from someone else’s UR account?

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  30. Hi D,

    Quick question. I currently have the Chase Freedom Mastercard, and about 2 months ago applied for and received the two southwest cards. What can I do to get the Chase Freedom Visa plus the 10k UR points? Do I need to cancel my Freedom Mastercard, first? Will it be a big deal that I just got those other 2 chase cards not too long ago?

    Thanks in advance!

  31. Oh, and also, what, if anything, will happen to the current UR points that I have on the Mastercard, if I cancel it?

    • @orlin – If you transfer Ultimate Rewards points to United, they become United miles and you have the same constraints with award booking. But you could just book via the Ultimate Rewards portal for more availability.

      @J
      – In my experience, yes, but I’ve read reports of where that didn’t work.

      @Kyle
      – If you cancel the MasterCard you will lost the UR points unless you transfer the points to another Ultimate Rewards card or cash out the points. You could either cancel the MasterCard and then apply for the Visa or apply for the Visa and try to convince the reconsideration department why you need both a Visa and MasterCard. I’ve done neither, but I suspect the 2nd may be a bit harder.

  32. Hi D,

    Is the link to the Chase Hyatt with 2 free nights and $75 fee waived still working? When I click on this link, it brings me to the page with $75 fee NOT waived. Thanks!

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  35. My husband and I applied for the Hyatt Visa through the link with the $75 fee waived on 7/4. We both got approved and managed to snag 2 nights at the Vendome and 2 nights in Tokyo this fall 🙂

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  37. This a more general question. For those credit cards that you open just for the signup bonus how long do you keep them open before you close that account? I figure you have to close them at some point to qualify for new promotions that comes up on the same type of card in the future. Thanks!

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  42. I already have Chase Marriott Visa (70K bonus) BA Visa (100K) and United MP (65K). I am thinking that my next one would be the Sapphire Preferred or Ink Bold Business (50K). Since I am only planning on applying for 1 Chase card every 3 months+, which card should I hit first? Any difference based on sequence with all of the UR earning cards? I do have a Chase checking account if that matters, but I thought of using the Freedom card as a last resort or perhaps together with a Business Card App (Ink Bold) to give me an easy answer/talking point on the reconsideration line: I would like a card with no annual fee! I am planning on keeping my Marriott Rewards Card since it is my oldest card with Chase and since the Cat 1-5 free night on anniversary is decent enough compensation for the annual fee. I am going to cancel the others just prior to the anniversary.

    • @bdben – I’d say get both at the same time if you can meet the minimum spending since 1 is a business card and 1 is a personal card. But you can’t go wrong picking just 1. Keep in mind that the Ink Bold has a $10K minimum spending for the full 50K sign-on bonus.

  43. Darius, are there any restrictions on the type of suite you can get? Between my wife and I, we will have 4 nights in a suite. There are several Hyatt’s in NYC with various suite types costing anywhere from $300 to $3,000 per night. Can you get any suite or do they withhold the top-end suites for paying customers?

  44. Applied for the Chase Hyatt card and did not get instant approval. Instead, a message came up saying further review is needed and that I will hear from them in 30 day … normal? What’s my next move?

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  47. The link from your site for the Chase card with 2 free nights is currently waiving $75 fee for the first year.

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  49. Thanks the ALL the tips… I was able to get both Ink (bold first then plus) cards. My ink is about to have the 1st yr aniversary which means that I’ll have to pay the 95 fee. Should I call and cancel ink bold and continue using ink plus? Also, I have the sapphire visa preferred, should I get the sapphire MC and get the 40,000 points too? BTW, the sapphire visa will have its 1st anniversary next month too… whould I call and cancel it too?

    • @Luis – The MC version of the Sapphire is no longer available. Be sure to transfer your points if you close the card, because you’ll lose them if you don’t transfer them out. You could close 1 card and use the other.

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  55. Hi daraius,

    Are you familiar with using chase 2 wards free nights at carmel highlands inn residence club? thanks

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  57. Does anyone know how long the initial 2 night voucher is good for? I am getting married in 16 months and would like to get this card but I want to make sure i have enough time to use the 2 free nights for my honeymoon

    Thanks

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  64. Slightly off topic but you mentioned that you shouldn’t apply for new credit cards 2 years before applying for a big loan. I just got a new credit card last month and am planning on applying for a mortgage in the next year or so, am I in trouble? I thought the no credit card rule only applies to 6 months before getting a loan?

  65. So if I only want the 2 free nights with Hyatt Credit card after i meet the mininum spending, It can be 2 free nights at any category ? I can choose the hightest category too?